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Bad Cop Stories

Postby HarryStottle » Sun Jun 24, 2007 1:42 am

As well, of course, as the relatively few (but growing) examples of Police violence, there are thousands of examples of Police Abuse generally. Here are three pages dedicated to nothing but...

This is Unknown News' page ":Our ongoing archive of criminal cops"

Here is "Brownwatch" "" portal with an emphasis on Police attacks on the non-white community (in the States)

And leading the way with Trusted Surveillance lite are the video activists at which has its own "caught on tape" collection.
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"Cop Watch" scores another

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Stupid Cop Boasting online

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Another Cop caught mouthing off...

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Cop Rams Teenager with Car - On Video

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Student Tasered at Kerry Meet

Postby HarryStottle » Tue Sep 18, 2007 7:51 pm

Democracy in action in the US of A. This is what happens when you insist on exercising your 1st Amendment rights by asking awkward questions in public. But at least we caught on camera.

The question burning in my mind, though, is why the fuck did no-one else protest? Apart from one girl you can hear screaming at the end - no one else lifted a finger. At the very least they could have got up and walked out. That would have made some impact. This widespread docility gives the State licensed bullies all the permission they need...
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Security Guard Breaks Girls Arm In Cake Row

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Abuse of the Democratic Process

Postby HarryStottle » Sun Sep 30, 2007 1:14 pm

This time, for a change, no Police Violence. Instead, naked abuse of the voting system in a State Legislature. It's almost as though they were unaware that the cameras were running! The news item also makes the point, in the intro, that these same elected officials are trying to push through laws to mandate photo ids at balloting points - to prevent multiple voting. .
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Sibel Edmunds

Postby HarryStottle » Sun Sep 30, 2007 1:20 pm

The story of Sibel Edmunds is a classic instance of why Trusted Surveillance is desperately needed inside government and, especially after Hoover, inside the policing and security agencies. If you haven't already watched "", it's time you did. And, while you're watching it, think how much simpler her case would have been with TS in place. Indeed, think how unlikely it would be that the embarrassing crimes she was clearly exposed to would have been committed in the first place...
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Blackwater

Postby HarryStottle » Sat Oct 06, 2007 12:12 pm

Blackwater, as you'll no doubt have heard, have been in a lately as the Iraqis apparently object to them killing civilians.

And now Condi Rice is that Cameras follow them wherever they go. D'you suppose she's one of my lurkers?
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Provocateurs...

Postby HarryStottle » Mon Feb 18, 2008 2:35 am

... are classic literal Corrupt Insiders.

thanks to rumple for pointing me at . 'king excellent example of trusted surveillance. Now imagine what it will be like when we routinely turn our mobile phones against them (and record the output direct to web so the footage is safe).

And, of course, it constitutes yet more justification for imposing trusted surveillance on those who, up till now, have held authority over us. Yet more justification for reminding ourselves who is supposed to have the authority in what are supposed to be democracies.

Incidentally, it is also a classic example of what we might have to regard as "terrorism lite" in much the same way we're supposed to regard as (and could you have imagined in 1998 that we'd be reading stories like that about an American Government in 2008? Personally I didn't expect us to reach this level of authoritarianism until at least 2020. We're way ahead of schedule!).

My own definition of specifies: The lethal targeting of non combatants to promote fear throughout the enemy population. as one of two key defining characteristics of Terrorism.

Provocateurs may not actually kill non combatants, but they clearly have no concern for those who may be killed by the police in the subsequent riot control operation the provos have triggered.

That'll be criminal enough for the average jury when we get around to giving them perfectly fair trials before we hang the bastards.

But the most significant factor in this story? That this is Canada - Not the US of A. If you weren't shivering before, that should do the trick...
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